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Poster: William Tell Date: Feb 17, 2010 10:19am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Ten Yrs After (non DEAD)

Happened to watch the extended Woodstock flick, and then found this for you Alvin Lee fans (note to JOTS--if you don't like Jack Bruce, do not watch this bass player; on the other hand, he seems faster than Lee at times...).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFpfureaCVs

Here's the more famous tune:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTSjz7y8jLc&;feature=related

[base???]

This post was modified by William Tell on 2010-02-17 18:19:54

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Poster: whirlwind dreamer 65-95 Date: Feb 17, 2010 12:46pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Ten Yrs After (non DEAD)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zS0w2GldhQ&;feature=related

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Poster: waynecs Date: Feb 17, 2010 3:41pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Ten Yrs After (non DEAD)

Will,I've seen TYA twice in the last coupla years and Leo still plays the "base" that way.
I love watching him because it's so obvious that he is having a ball just being on stage playing.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Feb 18, 2010 6:16am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Ten Yrs After (non DEAD)

Thanks Wayne--yep, I didn't know him by name, and I do love that style (?) which reminds me so much of Jack B...they really are working it as true "lead" bass, and though Phil is a master at that, it just comes across that they both really know what they are doing (duh), and yet achieving a "clean" sound with it rather than distorted or "squishy/spread out" (not sure that makes sense) bass (another example would be JEnt with the Who).

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Poster: Dudley Dead Date: Feb 18, 2010 7:39am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Ten Yrs After (non DEAD)

That fat fender bass sound you describe, is also heard with Noel Redding of JHE fame . Phil had,and has such a unique conception on the bass ( classical , advnt-jazz) . and often , helped by his equipment choice , had/has definitely beautiful tone, not just a thick thud .
Sort of Dead related, and definitely TYA related, is pretty funny story in Bill Graham's auto-bio. concerning the band . He relates how he had problems with most rock groups drum solos . He grew up listening to great latin and jazz bands, where the drumming was exceptional , and he though that most rocks bands drum solos came of rather pedestrian in comparison . He especially thought the solo's by TYA's drummer ( Alvin's brother ?)To be found wanting . So he goes to Vegas to get Buddy Rich to open for TYA . I can't do justice to the whole thing, you will have to read it . Buddy, as foul, and misanthropic a human as ever played music, fights it the whole way, with torrents of obscenities , but takes the gig ( his band members signaling to Graham behind his back, "Go on", "yes" etc.).
Everyone is yelling "Alvin !" "Alvin !", before the show . Short story is that Rich, blows everybody's mind with a drum solo that that the Filmore had not seen the likes of . After that, everybody goes nuts , and starts yelling "Buddy", "Buddy!" . Bill says , he approaches TYA's drummer, and says , "I'm looking forward to your drum solo tonight ". They didn't do a drum solo that night .

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Poster: William Tell Date: Feb 18, 2010 8:58am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Ten Yrs After (non DEAD)

Ha--great one! Yes, I often lamented this exact fault (?) of drummers, including of course, our two DEAD boys.

The only one I find the exception, and why I rank him # 1 among the R&R types, is of course, GBaker, with the musical background to fit somewhat with your thesis...always loved seeing your fellow on JCarson show!

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Feb 17, 2010 8:56am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Ten Yrs After (non DEAD)

I can vividly recall airguitaring that like a maniac in my bedroom aged 14 or thereabouts - ahh, the heady days of youth.

This blog has more TYA live stuff than you could fend off with a very big stick and a whole pack of ravening corgis should you feel inclined to indulge:

http://musictravellerstwo.blogspot.com/

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Poster: high flow Date: Feb 17, 2010 9:29am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Ten Yrs After (non DEAD)

I used a tennis racquet. It was a Wilson Evan Goolagong model with a shoulder strap made of kite twine. I had the moves of Jagger and the chops of Richards. You're So Respectable.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qn5q_qrl2N0

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Feb 17, 2010 9:38am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Ten Yrs After (non DEAD)

Evan?? That's Yvonne. Don't try to hide your girly predilections, you big sap.

I once pulled a whole bookcase down on top of myself while airkeyboarding to Keith Emerson. My dad, as I recall, was to a considerable degree unamused.

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Poster: high flow Date: Feb 17, 2010 9:47am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Ten Yrs After (non DEAD)

I knew she was a lady. The racquet was baby-blue. I just wasn't sure how to spell her name. It's actually Evonne. Let's call it Evonne then....no?

I once tore the posters off of my walls while rocking-out to Flying Purple People Eater. My parents had the same reaction as your father.

This post was modified by high flow on 2010-02-17 17:47:01

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Feb 17, 2010 10:08am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Ten Yrs After (non DEAD)

Evonne it is most definitely; I stand corrected.


(You knew I was just yanking on yer big manly chain, didn't you, Mr Flow?)

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Poster: William Tell Date: Feb 17, 2010 10:20am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Ten Yrs After (non DEAD)

I too used a racket about this time...A Davis woody of old, while all others were going metal. I reveled while reviled in my retro racket....just to make you cringe at the En Glaze in use here-bouts.

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Poster: high flow Date: Feb 17, 2010 10:24am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Ten Yrs After (non DEAD)

My En Glaze is a bit rusty as I usually speak jive. Turkey.

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Feb 17, 2010 10:29am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Ten Yrs After (non DEAD)

Hey Tell, we do not want to know about your woody. This is a family show.

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Poster: high flow Date: Feb 17, 2010 10:13am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Ten Yrs After (non DEAD)

Yes. Your jab was met with a laugh. I should know to check my facts before responding to a Wordsmith(aka Top Banana of Error and Omissions Department) post.

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Feb 17, 2010 10:37am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Ten Yrs After (non DEAD)

At least I had a Jack Kramer ...

Flow, how was AT&T? Had beautiful weather.

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Poster: high flow Date: Feb 17, 2010 10:40am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Ten Yrs After (non DEAD)

A beautiful walk at Pebble. The golf was so-so.

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Feb 17, 2010 10:50am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Ten Yrs After (non DEAD)

I live right next to the poor man's Pebble, PG public course. I take the dog running (the dog runs, I stumble and puff) most evenings down at end of peninsula where the PG lighthouse is on the golf course. Beautiful view and not a soul around. If ever down this way, look me up.

Also, if you contact me a week or so in advance of next year's AT&T, I can probably get you some passes and/or badges since our firm is sponsor (and we do a lot of work for Pebble Beach Co., Mission Ranch, etc.)

This post was modified by bluedevil on 2010-02-17 18:50:15

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Poster: high flow Date: Feb 17, 2010 10:36am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Ten Yrs After (non DEAD)

On Topic: I've Been There Too & Once There Was A Time are 2 favorite TYA tunes.

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Poster: Dudley Dead Date: Feb 17, 2010 1:43pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Ten Yrs After (non DEAD)

I worked at Tower Records for 24 years, went through 4 bosses . The last one was a bit younger than I( me: b 57, he 74), I was clocking out and leaving , and started singing "Going Home", and he did not know the reference . Made me feel OLD ! I just assumed it was common rock knowledge , he was in a band , but TYA is not one of the bands the "youngsters" knew .
It is funny which acts were remembered, and which draw a blank . Hendrix, yes, Cream, no. GD, yes, JA no. The Who , yes, the Kinks , no. The Doors, yes, the Byrds no . Neil Young , yes, The Band , no . Dylan, yes , Springsteen, "Old guy stuff". The Beatles , yes, the Stones, "who cares ".
On and on.
I'm sure blues purists, find Alvin Lee, too showy , and for the New Wave folks "wanky", but I love this stuff . Thanks for the post .

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Poster: William Tell Date: Feb 17, 2010 2:43pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Ten Yrs After (non DEAD)

Interesting...I would defn rank TYA as one that was obscure at the time, even...but, for the 70s and even 80s, JAir still rated, generally above the DEAD, in my experience. And, though biased, many always held CREAM high due to Clapton.

But, I defn agree with the spirit of your suggestions about how some fade, and some don't rate the significant "nod" of appreciation that they deserve, but of course, so subjective to say so..

That is why I am always babbling on about Syd Barrett, Brian Jones, and Donovan as being huge influences, at least from my West Coast vantage, though conceding many wouldn't call it that way.

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Poster: Dudley Dead Date: Feb 17, 2010 3:16pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Ten Yrs After (non DEAD)

It might be what circles, we traveled in,and where we are ( southern Orange County for me ) , that affects the awareness, and regard for certain acts . I recall a fairly musical guy, from the Midwest , arguing that Grand Funk was a better band than the Allman Brothers . All the acts I mentioned, I like/love and think are important musically, and historically . It is just odd which of them are still known and which are obscure .
TYA, while not in the rank of the artists I mentioned, did get those few songs played on early 70's FM, and anyone who owned the Woodstock album, knew that "Going Home" , you posted . They are one of the Bands that got good milage from Woodstock, while, our boys, had a rough time of it .
Donavan, early Floyd , yes definitely overlooked ; I would like to add Traffic to that list . I am always surprised how few people I met know their music .

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Poster: hippie64 Date: Feb 18, 2010 6:25am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Ten Yrs After (non DEAD)

Record producers have a way of mucking in the affairs of established artist. When traffic lost Chris Wood, it left the band ripe for poaching, A new label like Island records come along , flash big cash in front of Winwood then all of a sudden Jim Capaldi who ?

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Poster: hippie64 Date: Feb 18, 2010 6:43am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Ten Yrs After (non DEAD)

Maybe that statement failed to include the feud between Dave Mason and Steve, One wanting psychadelia the other pop driven folk. Winwood has been Back in the high life since.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Feb 18, 2010 6:18am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Ten Yrs After (non DEAD)

Oh yeah! Traffic for sure...good call.

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Poster: snori Date: Feb 17, 2010 4:29pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Ten Yrs After (non DEAD)

I saw Ten Years After about a week after they got back from Woodstock in a little town called Dunstable (about 40 miles North of London). I'm not a blues purist, but I think Alvin Lee would have been rated alongside Rory Gallagher (for example) if he played 'Goin' Home' less, and some of his slower numbers more.

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Poster: WHARFRAT Date: Feb 17, 2010 10:44am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Ten Yrs After (non DEAD)

And, From my fav. TYA album I wore out :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNHqUhGEFZM